Monday, October 14, 2013

Order, Security, and Efficiency - Thomas Hobbes (Maria Nunez)

People need order, security, and efficiency because they are naturally cruel, greedy, and selfish.  They would fight, rob, and oppress each other if they are not strictly controlled.  This way of life is nasty and brutish so people decided to make and follow a social contract, an agreement by which they give up their freedom for an organized society.  I believe that only a powerful government would cause such an orderly society.  An absolute monarchy can impose order and compel obedience in order to create this orderly society.  France needs security from these people who are naturally cruel, greedy, and selfish and who would fight, rob, and oppress each other if they are not strictly controlled.  We must feel safe and secure, not the other way around.  France also needs efficiency.  Our government must learn to work quickly and efficiently.  We must learn to deal with our problems as they come so that we do not fall behind.

5 comments:

  1. Jacobin (S. Basler)
    How can you possibly believe that having order is better than having "Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity"? Does it not matter to you that over 97% of the population has no say? You say that humans are corrupt, but the one's who are corrupt are the ones in power. They take away all of our rights and leave us with no say at all. If we were to live by "Order, Security and Efficiency", shouldn't that mean that we are protected? Yet, our rights are not, and neither are we. If we want to truly flourish as a country, we must abide by "Liberty, Equality and Fraternity", because if we don't work together to make our country better, nothing will ever work out in our favor. When we learn as a country to unite and work together and establish liberty and equality for all, then maybe we can look for order, security, and efficiency. But until then, we must fight to get our rights.

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  2. Sans-Culotte (Maria Nunez)

    Our country needs liberty, equality, and fraternity. We demanded a republic, or government ruled by elected representatives. We do not want a monarchy. We must fight for power and destroy tyranny. We did the right thing in killing nobles and priests accused of political offences, as well as ordinary prisoners, because they only opposed the French Revolution so that they would not lose their power. These riots were necessary in order to reform our government.

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  3. John Locke (E. Kalander)
    "We are like chameleons, we take our hue and the color of our moral character, from those who are around us." -Myself
    By imposing an absolute monarchy are you hoping that society will act civil and polite? Because I do not believe that would be the case. If you put a selfish and greedy ruler in power, what example is that setting for his people? All men are born good. What the population needs is "Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity". Instead of having one man rule over thousands, try having thousands working together.

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  4. Montesquieu (Amin Rajaee)

    This country must go by liberty, equality, and fraternity. If we do not have equality for the people, there is no way that there could be equality for the branches of my government theory. The separation of powers theory will not work fluently without these three keys to it. Order, security, and efficiency is not right for this country. A government is no good without its people. People with liberty, equality, and fraternity will help run a government with equal and spread out powers for each branch.

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  5. John Locke (Anna Buckley) I disagree with you, people are not born "cruel, greedy and selfish". Everyone is born with a clean slate, and it is up to them how they proceed though life. By giving them order, security and efficiency to live by, we are eliminating the idea that you can be whoever you want to be. What we need in this country is liberty, equality and fraternity so that everyone has the same chance to do what they want instead of thrusting it upon them. Have faith in the betterment of man.

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